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ClaudeO

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Ross, how important is spine angle and is there an optimal degree? When you 'sit down' with an athletic setup do you just use what ever spine angle feels comfortable? Another way to look at it is to ask the Q does swing plane matter?
It seems that a more upright stance produces a flatter swing plane with a greater chance of blocking the shot.
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Spine angle will ultimately be determined by club length and the conditions of the lie of the ball.  There is no easy way to explain this and each individual is built differently, so there is no one sure fire method to find it.  In general "Balance" and the freedom to "Turn your Shoulders" are key here.

Yes, the more upright your spine is, the flatter the swing plane and vice versa..., but the more upright you can be, the easier it is to turn your shoulders.  The shoulders can't turn very far when you're bent over. 

Does swing plane matter?... some, but not much.  It will influence the club heads path and add some influence on the ball flight, but face angle is WAY more important... like 80%.  It all depends on when the club face meets the ball... on the descent, or at the bottom.

There is a spine angle that satisfies, the length of the club, and conditions of the lie of the ball and BALANCE... everyone has to experiment to find what works for them.  HINT:  You must feel once setup, that you are straight down to gravity! ... as if no one could move you in any direction... SOLID... not leaning in any one direction.

The knees also play an important role to help adjust getting down to the ball and keep yourself in balance.  This is what moves when I say "and sit down".

A flatter swing plane is not the reason for blocked shots... the reason is ball position too far back and/or an open club face.  A flatter swing will have the path more in-to-out, ... but with a square face at impact, you'll get straight or a slight draw depending on ball position.

This is pretty heavy stuff to discuss and is unnecessary to know or digest, to have a repeatable, balanced swing.  If you watch the Athletic Setup lesson video, I show you how to find the spine angle... hope this answered your questions Claude... 

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Ross
On the backswing to get the club head at 45 degrees
(As shown in video) As the shoulder turns I have
To manipulate my hands (back of glove facing ground) to get that angle.
Do you have a video or exercise (or) comment on this topic
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I don't have a video on manipulating the hands, because we don't during the swing. 

Everyone grips the club differently and different grips can produce different results.  Make sure you're starting with the club shaft in line with the front arm.  Make sure the pad behind the little finger, on your front (left for a right hander) hand, is on top of the grip.  Watch the Grip lesson video for more.  

Now, if you're setup correctly and are only using your shoulders on the backswing, the leading edge should be roughly at t 45° angle without the need for manipulation.  

If you continue to struggle, you need to send me a couple swing videos so I can see what's happening.

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